Incluse This! Podcast


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Season 2 launches Spring 2022

The all new Incluse This! Podcast is not just a podcast – it’s a movement. The first of its kind, this safe and coalitional space was deliberately created for critical conversations at eye level that lead to change – on individual, local, state, and federal levels. We host in-depth interviews with a wide variety of guests who bring disability to the forefront of the greater diversity conversation, and progress movement for disability equity forward.

Each episode, hosted by Sarah Kirwan, MSPA, with special guest Molly Bloom, PhD, is built and crafted around a compelling and sometimes uncomfortable topic, which we discuss with guests during a very direct and honest one-hour conversation. Our goal is to change mindsets and how we think about disability in America and beyond, and we feature a wide array of disability-related topics this season.

Incluse This! amplifies disabled voices, tackles the intersectionality that naturally exists for people living with disabilities, connects people through shared experiences, and works alongside disability allies to unify the disability community. We invite YOU to join our conversation today, as we educate ourselves, get comfortable with the uncomfortable, and use our voices to call for change!

As language, perceptions and social mores change at a seemingly faster and faster rate, it is becoming increasingly difficult for communicators to figure out how to refer to people with disabilities. This style guide, developed by the National Center on Disability and Journalism at Arizona State University, is intended to help. It covers almost 200 words and terms commonly used when referring to disability.


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Incluse This! Podcast Trailer

Meet host Sarah Kirwan and join her in the movement for disability equity.

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Episode 1: Am I Disabled Enough?

Wednesday, January 13, 2021
SPECIAL GUEST: Molly Bloom, PhD, Inclusive Design Researcher, Adobe

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Episode 2: Inclusion is Bullsh**

Wednesday, January 20, 2021
GUEST: Leroy Moore, Founder of Krip Hop Nation

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Episode 3: Words Are Powerful

Wednesday, January 27, 2021
GUEST: Jourdan Saunders, MS, CCC-SLP, Founder of The Resource Key

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Episode 4: What Disability Community?

Wednesday, February 3, 2021
GUEST: Tiffany Yu, Founder of DIVERSABILITY

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Episode 5: Will the Cripples Save You?

Wednesday, February 10, 2021
GUEST: Charis Hill, Writer, Speaker, Model, Being Charis

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Episode 6: Is COVID-19 a Disability?

Wednesday, February 17, 2021
GUEST: Marjorie Roberts, DBA | Certified Life Coach and Speaker

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Episode 7: Amplifying Voices of Disabled Women

Wednesday, February 24, 2021
GUEST: Alannah Murray, disability advocate and postgraduate researcher

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Episode 8: Despite the Barriers, There’s Joy

Wednesday, March 10, 2021
GUEST: Stephanie Keeney Parks, PhD Candidate
Department of Anthropology | University of California, Los Angeles

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Episode 9: It's a Love-Hate Relationship

Wednesday, March 17, 2021
GUEST: Molly Bloom, PhD, Inclusive Design Researcher, Adobe

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Episode 10: Dawnia Marie IS Brightside 365

Wednesday, March 24, 2021
GUEST: Dawnia Marie, MS Advocate, and Founder and CEO of Brightside 365

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Episode 11: Your Only is My Everything

Wednesday, March 31, 2021
GUEST: Carl Deriso, MS Advocate

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Episode 12: We Have Sh** to Understand

Wednesday, April 7, 2021
GUEST: Molly Bloom, PhD, Inclusive Design Researcher, Adobe

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Sarah is the Founder and CEO of Eye Level Communications, LLC (Eye Level), a California-based disability and woman-owned small business. Eye Level offers disability equity and inclusion training, strategic business consulting services, and speaking engagements that connect communities and drive positive social change for people living with disabilities.

She is a public administration professional with more than 25-years of experience, and her work and research for the last decade has focused on healthcare administration, communications, training, and policy. In 2011, Sarah was diagnosed with Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis, and in 2019, she was diagnosed with Superior Semi-Circular Canal Dehiscence, a rare inner-ear disorder. Her personal and professional experiences have made her a passionate disability rights champion, and she’s dedicated to having the critical conversations at eye level that connect people to each other, to their communities, and most importantly, to themselves.

Sarah has appeared in several advocacy videos for the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, and she’s been interviewed for feature articles in Prevention Magazine. She is a member of the National Small Business Association Leadership Council, and the National and California Diversity Councils. She earned her Master of Science in Public Administration degree from California State University, Los Angeles.


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Molly J Bloom, PhD

Molly has felt an affinity for and responsibility to the disability community since sustaining a life-changing injury as a teenager in 2006. Since then, she has co-founded the only women’s wheelchair basketball team in California, completed a PhD drawing on anthropology and disability studies, and learned from her friends and peers that disability community always involves sharing knowledge, advocacy, and living joyfully. In her doctoral studies at UCLA, Molly brought together critical perspectives on race, class, and disability community.

Her research, funded by the National Science Foundation among other organizations, was recognized for its commitment to diversity when she was inducted into the Edward A. Bouchet Honor Society in 2018. She has authored publications on topics ranging from adaptive athletics, to disability in the Middle East, to Brazilian Sign Language. Recently, Molly has relocated to home of the American Disability Rights Movement, the Bay Area, where she is busy working as an Inclusive Design Researcher for Adobe and soaking in the activist milieu. She thrives on connection and collective growth and longs for the day when she can build joy in-person with her disabled kin.


Per Se The Band

Special thanks to Per Se The Band for the use of their song "Cool" for the Incluse This! podcast.

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